Janan says he has always supported the Taliban politically, with its stern interpretation of Islam and iron-fisted grip on security.
And-
Zaher is asked why he joined the Taliban in the first place.
During a 90-minute interview he mentioned the salary, the motorbike, the free house, the harrassment from Afghan officials and even the quality of the curry he was served on a Pakistani military compound.
But why did he join the Taliban in the first place?
"There was a religious component," he says.
"We were fighting for Islam."
Question is, of course, is anybody listening to what they say?
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